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6. Art of Living: The Classical Mannual
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1. Handbook of Epictetus
by Epictetus
Paperback: 29 Pages (1983-06)
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5-0 out of 5 stars excellent translation
Funny Amazon should offer us to buy this book together with Enchiridion by Epictetus (Long Translation) when these two are in fact one and the same book, different translators and different supplemental background info/comments. Of course I only realized that when both books arrived and I compared them :(. One star to Amazon for that :((( As for the book, the reason I put it on my wish list last year was the fact that in the course of last 3 years I had to release and let go of many things (and people), and I had struggled with the conflict between fighting for what I want and never giving up (cause nothing is completely lost until we give up on it) and knowing when to let go. I reverted to stoic thought for strength to live without regret and feeling of loss. And while it helped me resolve some of my inner conflicts, I must warn you that this book is not writing of a self-help guru, its an actual philosohical work. Which is OK for me, but might not serve the same purpose for everyone that it did for me. As for translation, I prefer this one to Long's because it is more in the spirit of English language, at the same time remaining non-colloquial. I also find additional information included by translator to be very enlightening and good guide into phylosophy of the age and further reading.

5-0 out of 5 stars The Most Important Book You'll Ever Read
Suffice it to say, everything you will ever need to know about life is in this book. Before the Christians, the Muslims, the Dali Lama, the New Ages mystics, there was Epictetus. Epictetus was a former slave who was expelled from Rome for teaching his philosophy and refusing to shave his philosopher's beard. The church father Origen tells a story about him that goes something like this: Epictetus was working his slave field, when his master approached him with the prospect of tightening the chain that held his leg fast to the ground. Epictetus protests that tightening the chain will not be needed to keep him from running away, but would only break his leg. After it became clear that his master would not let paltry reason get in his way, Epictetus gave the matter up, and his master proceeded to tighten the chain. In due course his leg broke, and in due course Epictetus merely smiled and said "I told you so." From that day on, he was lame; yet he never seems to have complained of his lameness, and indeed seemed to berate those who complained of their lameness or other bodily malady. Origen said that Epictetus was more popular than Plato in his own day.
As an atheist, I had trouble trying to live as a disciple of Epictetus; yet, at closer review, one finds that Stoicism is fine without the conception of a thinking, conscious, omnipotent universe; indeed, I think a good dose of atomism and a firm naturalistic conception the universe makes Stoicism a stronger, if not more "gloomy" philosophy. But suffice it to say, whether theist or not, there is much to be learned here, if one has eyes to see.
Now, as for the translation, I liked it. Very sharp powerful and when compared to other translations (for I am no master of koine Greek) it seems to be very accurate. It's small size means you can take it anywhere, for on-the-spot advice. Highly recommended.

3-0 out of 5 stars Interesting introduction, but lacking in depth
I have read about philophers and history and our founding fathers wonderfully created documents and the great historical and philosophic works behind their conclusions all my life.In all that time I have found almost all of them to be profound and inspiring.Yet unlike others who have reviewed this work I have found it wanting in it's basic interprative conclusions.

By that I mean in one paragraph there will be great insight and in the next the interpretation seems to loose coherency all together or has absolutely no rational application what-so-ever for living well.

Oh there are many profound ideals represented in this booklet and I agree that for his time and place in history Epictetus must have been one great piece of work to come to many of the conclusions put forth in these pages.Such as those on page 22 and 23 where:

1. He criticises the use of fortune tellers and warnes that one should see them for what they really are (just fault ridden human beings)and indicates that one does not need a fortune teller or soothsayer to know it is right to share the burden of a friend and to defend ones nation or,

2. that one should not allow the influence of others, when mingling, to cause one to slide into their bad habits, practices/lifestyles or unethical behavior and;

3. Sexual abstinence if you can achieve it is a good thing. Boy I bet the ACLU and the liberals elites in America must hate Eptictetus.

But I constantly got the feeling that the author was stuggling to give us these insights or tried just too hard to be clinical in his analysis and that he was being too Stoic (ha...ha...isn't that an interesting thought) in telling us what Epictetus really thought or was trying to impart.

I almost got the impression in considering what Epictetus had said (if one can trust, not the writings of the man himself, but what someone else thought he said or meant) and not what White's conept or interpretation of his meaning was or is...that although this Stoics philosopher was tyring to be like some Vulcan Mystic from Star Trek that he was really more like Spoc, who had underlying conflicting more human feelings.

I believe all good philosohers do struggle with this issue and ask themselves "Is what I believe, true" from time to time.

The great ones do not just dismiss this question as political party die hards and hacks do today...but actually grapple with this question and adjust when their phiolsophies trun out to be wanting, wrong, unethical, immoral and just down right false.

Yes one can glean the beginnings of great thought here when considering the time and place of his teachings, but I would not at all consider Epictetus the greatest of all philsophers whether Stoic or other wise.

He is just one of many hundreds that should be considered for that title during ones lifelong study of our rise from barbaric nomads to civilized mankind.Of course one can, if one studies modern man's fall from grace in the 20th and 21 centuries, from a neutral point of view, actually consider that we are less civlized now than we were in Epictetus' time.

Of course that is a discussion for another time.A good booklet, if read critically, as all should be, to add to any self-made philosophers collection and also for the aspiring student.

5-0 out of 5 stars A Great Introduction to Stoic Philosophy
Possibly the most famous Stoic Philosopher is Marcus Aurelius, whose "Meditations" was written, not to be read as a philosophic treatise, but rather as a personal journal, complete with seemingly random entries and no apparent structure. Moreover, it is clear from his "Meditations" that Marcus Aurelius was greatly influenced by the teachings of Epictetus. In fact, according to Aulus Gellius, Herodes Atticus (who was Marcus Aurelius' teacher at the time) told Marcus Aurelius that Epictetus was the greatest of all the Stoic philosophers, which is quite convenient for us since most of the writings of earilier Stoics (such as Zeno of Citium, Cleanthes and Chrysippus) have been lost, probably in the burning of the Library of Alexandria.

Epictetus, like Socrates, apparently never wrote anything himself; however, his students took very good notes. One student by the name of Flavius Arrian may be responsible for the composition of eight volumes, titled "The Discourses of Epictetus," of which four volumes still survive. Arrian served under Emperor Hadrian who initially choose Atticus to be Marcus Aurelius' teacher. Arrian also wrote another text, titled "The Encheiridion of Epictetus" (or "Handbook" or "Manual"), which also survives and appears to be an abstract of his "Discourses". Throughout the second century, Epictetus was regarded as the greatest of the Stoic philosophers, and became even more popular than Plato. Stoicism nevertheless lost favor in the middle ages and was not revived until 1584 when Justus Lipsius published his "De Constantia".

I would highly recommend the writings of Epictetus to anyone interested in Stoic Philosophy, or anyone at all for that matter.Epictetus should make for an excellent introduction to Stoic Philosophy, and the "Encheiridion" is an excellent introduction to Epictetus. I prefer this particular translation of "The Encheiridion of Epictetus", by Nicholas P. White, over the other translations that I have read. Oldfather's translation (Loeb Classical Library) is also very good.

5-0 out of 5 stars The Handbook
The "Handbook" is an essential read for the student of philosophy and is quintessential for those who desire a quick glance at stoic philosophy.White's masterful introduction provides the reader withthe necessary context she needs in order to digest and enjoy this treatfrom antiquity. His translation is pleasing to the contemporary ear andtrue to the text. ... Read more


2. Discourses of Epictetus
by Epictetus
Paperback: 316 Pages (2006-09-19)
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Epictetus, a great philosopher taught the importance of control over one's own mind and will, for true happiness must not depend on things one cannot control. Unlike most philosophers, Epictetus taught not for the select few, but for the many and humble. This edition contains all 4 books. ... Read more

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5-0 out of 5 stars the intellectual stoic
Epictetus is a great guide for understanding what Stoicism and the idea of Greek morality was in their time.For the books of Epictetus that have survived over time, this book, along with the Enchiridion, give guidance to the dissenting Stoic on how to behave at public functions, and how one must care after one's own behavior and moral soul.Very good writing of Stoic beliefs.

2-0 out of 5 stars Very Poor edition of this or any other ancient text. Avoid!
The only thing this edition of Epictetus' four Discourses is it's price, and if you buy it for the price, as another both I and another reviewer did, you may be exceedingly disappointed! The translation is fair, and matches well with the Loeb Classical Library edition by W. A. Oldfather, but it is missing absolutely everything which makes the book useful as a reference for ancient study. Like my copies of Plato, Aristotle, Homer, the Greek playwrights, and the historians, I rarely read them from start to finish. Virtually all my use is to look up references to Epictetus' writings cited in works on the Bible and commmentaries on other ancient Greek and Roman works. There is no introduction, no footnotes, no index, and worst of all, no numbering of the sections and lines within the sections. The Loeb Classical Library edition, unless you can get it on the cheap, may cost you four times as much, but it will be ten times more useful. I'm giving my copy away to a library!

1-0 out of 5 stars Epictetus is great: This book isn't
I have wanted to own a copy of the Discourses for several years.I finally decided to buy one.I picked this one because it was the cheapest. Big mistake. It is absolutely riddled with typos and misspellings.It is very difficult to read.Only the wisdom of Epictetus keeps me from tossing this copy in the trash.I couldn't even find an editor or a translator listed for the copy."NuVision" publishing seems to be a pretty sorry operation.Just try buying the Discourses from one of the reputable publishers further down the list.

5-0 out of 5 stars It Should be in Everyone's Library
Everyone's library should have a bit of stoic philsophy in it to round it out.One never knows when one might need to become a bit more stoic.

Epictetus' ideas were, at the very least, considered an indispensable part of stoic philosophy and are considered by many to be among the best ideas in stoic philosophy.

Epictetus was one of the great practical philosophers.Everyone should be exposed to at least a bit of practical philsophy in order to help stave off boredom if nothing else.

If you're curious about how one of the great Roman Stoics answered questions such as the following this is a book for you.
"If a man opposes evident truths, it is not easy to find arguments by which we shall make him change his opinion.But this does not arise either from the man's strength or the teachers weakness; for when the man though he has been confuted, is hardened like a stone, how whall we then be able to deal with him by argument?"-Epictetus

5-0 out of 5 stars Epictetus - The best translation I found
Having developed an interest in Epictetus, I bought a translation of his works, and was sorely disappointed. The wording was awkward, and phrasing often confusing or difficult to understand.
This particular book was the third version of the Discourses I purchased, and I was delighted to find it understandable and enjoyable reading. You also get the complete works of Epictetus (The Discourses, Enchiridion, and Fragments), a nice bonus. I have not looked at every translation available, but I can recommend this one as well done.

As for the review complaining about many typo's, I'm not sure that he is talking about this particular book. Two other translations that I bought were absolutely mangled and virtually unreadable. The "Everyman" edition is much better, understandable, and if there are a lot of typo's, I have not seen them. ... Read more


3. Enchiridion (Dover Thrift Editions)
by Epictetus
Paperback: 64 Pages (2004-01-15)
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A first-century Stoic, Epictetus argued that we will always be happy if we learn to desire that things should be exactly as they are. His Enchiridion, or Manual, is a distillation of his teachings and an instructional manual for a tranquil life as it offers guidelines for those seeking contentment.
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Customer Reviews (28)

4-0 out of 5 stars Interesting
It is amazing how a slave had become so powerful in the Roman empire and the influence he had on the soldiers and leaders.

2-0 out of 5 stars enchiridion
I Didn't know what to expect with this volume, but this edition was a little too bare bones. A little more back ground and insight would have been better.
I realize this was a least expensive book and I probably got what I paid
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5-0 out of 5 stars Learn to trim your sail- not curse the Wind
It is amazing how much more one gets from the Enchiridion when it is reread in later life. In youth, it is too easy to rush through without digesting the deeper meaning (and thereby escaping much pain and wasted effort.) Here, in this slim volume is the core of Epictetus' immortal teachings, his Discourses may expand upon them, but all the essentials are outlined here.

Some people dismiss these teachings as pessimistic. After all, the central message here is to learn to differentiate between what you can change and what you cannot. Most modernists will instead tell you to dream big and never say die. Then again, such critics existed in Epictetus' own day, for we are told that you can either be a philosopher or a procurator, but you cannot truly be both.

Personally, I see nothing defeatist in the philosophy expressed here. At its deepest level we are being told that the ultimate goal is to make our will and God's will as one. You see, in spite of the admonition in the publisher's note that the God of the Philosopher's and the God of Judeo-Christian theology are two unrelated things, the truth is that they both touch upon the pre-existing ultimate realty of the Divine One in their own ways. The Stoic desire to conform to Nature is the perennial spiritual ideal to unite with the One and the Good. Far from being a defeat, this is the highest possible victory in life for Christian and/or Philosopher.

This excellent, unabridged little Dover volume is probably the one that Epictetus would recommend. In fact, you might also want to purchase the Dover edition of MEDITATIONS by Marcus Aurelius for they are in the same spirit and make a natural set. There could be no more thoughtful a gift to send to an introspective friend.

3-0 out of 5 stars Notthe best of Epictetus
I really love the philosophy of Epictetus and this book is no exception.However I found this work to be a little difficult to grasp.The ideas expressed were at times rather complex.

I much prefer a different work, A Manual for Living.I have written a review on that book and I found it much easier to understand. The ideas were much clearer.I strongly recommend A Manual for Living as a much better example of the work of Epictetus.

I suggest you read my other review before you buy this book.

5-0 out of 5 stars Fortitude, Temperance, Prudence, Justice
The Enchiridion is the bridge between the old radical schools of Stoicism in the tradition of Zeno of Citium which taught to deny desire and defeat emotion to achieve 'eudaimonia' (excellence in temper) and the late era Stoicism which teaches us not to defeat emotion and desire but simply not to let it dominate prudent judgments, decisions and actions.

Epictetus' Stoic philosophy is a practical philosophy for life that focuses on understanding what causes us grief in our life and then detaching ourselves from that grief; removing from our lives unnecesary pains. The Enchiridion offers insightful and straightforward wisdom on how to endure misfortune by developing character and apatheia (clear judgment) by training ourselves in the Socratic lifestyle. The four cardinal virtues of such a lifestyle are sophrosyne (temperance/self-control), dikaiosyne (justice/righteousness/honesty/authenticity), sophia (prudence/wisdom), and andreia (fortitude/courage). When we dedicate our lives in the pursuit of virtue and not in the pursuit of gratifying our emotions, not only do we fulfill our duty within nature in achieving harmony amidst the community and earth but we also find how meaningless a good deal of the constant bickering, drama, dishonesty and insincerity of the mob really is.

A Stoic philosopher removes himself from addictions, a life centered around sex, inauthenticity, falsity, selfishness and actions which would unbalance the natural order or damage the community. At the heart of the Epictetus' philosophy is a sort of civic virtue that transcends nations and borders:

"If what philosophers say of the kinship of God and Men be true, what remains for men to do but as Socrates did:--never, when asked one's country, to answer, 'I am an Athenian or a Corinthian,' but 'I am a citizen of the world.'"

A Stoic looks beyond silly and proud displays of nationalism and instead accepts everyone for what they are, while striving to attain righteousness within himself. Stoics were the first philosophers to detest slavery. For Epictetus slavery is a thing which only occurs in the mind, when we allow ourselves to become a slave mentally. In fact all misfortunes are illusory things which only become misfortunate when we define them as being such. The core of the Stoic philosophy of the Enchiridion is realizing that nothing bad can happen to us, that we have no control over external things, and can only be concerned with controlling our own actions, decisions and judgments.

If we are not in control ourselves, we are a slave. For Epictetus, who was a slave before being a Roman-era Socrates, slavery is a mindset. We can maintain our diginity, charm, cheerfulness and character in the face of any disaster. He offers a interesting proposition: surely we would be angered if someone tried to control our body like a puppet, so why do we so easily hand our mind over to others when we are angered, in love or jealous? For Epictetus everything must be accounted for - and there is no physical circumstance, including death, which is unfortunate. In this we see a sort of proto-nihilism in the vein of Heraclitus - who was a heavy influence on the Stoics. Although Epictetus and the later Marcus Aurelius acknowledge a inpersonal divine force and logic manifesting itself behind all things (the Logos), they never presume that God has any influence in the roll of events and for all intents and purposes, suggest living as if this matter before us, shifting every constantly, is the only consideration. This nihilistic view which is within the Enchiridion is perfectly summed up in Marcus Aurelius' Meditations:

"Like seeing roasted meat and other dishes in front of you and suddenly realizing: This is a dead fish. A dead bird. A dead pig. Or that this noble vintage is grape juice., and the purple robes are sheep wool dyed with shellfish blood. Or making love - something rubbing against your penis, a brief seizure and a little cloudy liquid.

Perceptions like that - latching onto things and piercing through them, so we see what they really are. That's what we need to do all the time - all through our lives when things lay claim to our trust- to lay them bare and see how pointless they are, to strip away the legend that encrusts them."

When we understand the innate nature of things, which is nihilism (without any innate meaning), we can begin to avoid having our mind disturbed when they are changed or destroyed, for change is the only persistent nature of existence. How can we be disturbed when our favorite jug is destroyed, Epictetus proposes, if it is simply a piece of clay that we had no control over in the first place? We have control over nothing external, even ourown bodies and immediate possessions. We only have control over our judgments, actions, decisions and how we decide to temper our lives with reason and logic. Agony occurs when we attempt to control what is not within our power to control (anything external to the mind) or when we expect external things to act in certain ways. We can only expect ourselves to act in a certain fashion.

Epictetus even says that we should not be disturbed when our wife or child dies - the person hasn't died, just the body, something we have no true control over. We have to evaluate why exactly we are being disturbed: because we will miss what they brought to our lives OR because they have gone to glory? The former is a greedy and irrational judgment, the latter should bring us no disturbance, but only joy, in the passing of the body and its rejoining of nature. How are we to ever presuppose what happens after death? For a Stoic this is entirely unimportant, the only thing that matters is a nihilistic philosophy of realism, attending to the matter at hand, as virtously as possible, as well as possible, and leaving the rest up to Fate, blaming no one, forever remaining generous of character, valuing friendship and maintaining our charm, charisma and apatheia (clear judgment) in the face of great disaster and misfortune.

Before this review is concluded I will showcase one quote that I believe is the quintessence of the Enchiridon and all Stoic philosophy. What Epictetus is about to say is also the quintessence of a Socratic life - one based on actions, not pretention and not words:

"Never call yourself a philosopher, nor talk a great deal among the unlearned about theorems, but act conformably to them. Thus, at an entertainment, don't talk how persons ought to eat, but eat as you ought. For remember that in this manner Socrates also universally avoided all ostentation. And when persons came to him and desired to be recommended by him to philosophers, he took and recommended them, so well did he bear being overlooked. So that if ever any talk should happen among the unlearned concerning philosophic theorems, be you, for the most part, silent. For there is great danger in immediately throwing out what you have not digested. And, if anyone tells you that you know nothing, and you are not nettled at it, then you may be sure that you have begun your business. For sheep don't throw up the grass to show the shepherds how much they have eaten; but, inwardly digesting their food, they outwardly produce wool and milk. Thus, therefore, do you likewise not show theorems to the unlearned, but the actions produced by them after they have been digested."

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4. Epictetus: Discourses, Books 3-4. The Encheiridion. (Loeb Classical Library No. 218)
by Epictetus
Hardcover: 576 Pages (1928-01-01)
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Epictetus was a crippled Greek slave of Phrygia during Nero's reign (54-68 CE) who heard lectures by the Stoic Musonius before he was freed. Expelled with other philosophers by the emperor Domitian in 89 or 92 he settled permanently in Nicopolis in Epirus. There, in a school which he called 'healing place for sick souls', he taught a practical philosophy, details of which were recorded by Arrian, a student of his, and survive in four books of Discourses and a smaller Encheiridion, a handbook which gives briefly the chief doctrines of the Discourses. He apparently lived into the reign of Hadrian (117-138 CE).

Epictetus was a teacher of Stoic ethics, broad and firm in method, sublime in thought, and now humorous, now sad or severe in spirit. How should one live righteously? Our god-given will is our paramount possession, and we must not covet others'. We must not resist fortune. Man is part of a system; humans are reasoning beings (in feeble bodies) and must conform to god's mind and the will of nature. Epictetus presents us also with a pungent picture of the perfect (Stoic) man.

The Loeb Classical Library edition of Epictetus is in two volumes.

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5-0 out of 5 stars Part II of best edition available today.
This is the second of the two volume Loeb Classical Library edition of Epictetus' Discourses, with Greek and W. A. Oldfather's English translation on facing pages. For those who have no intgerest in the Greek, purchasing this volume may seem like a bit of overkill when compared with inexpensive reprints such as the one from NuVision Publications (September 19, 2006). As someone who bought the reprint first, I must tell you I tried to use it once and was immediately disappointed. Just as with my copies of Homer, Plato, Aristotle, and practically every other classic author, I rarely read them or parts of them from start to finish. Rather, I look up sections when I find references to them in commentaries on, for example, parts of the Old or New Testaments. In order to find the appropriate passage, one must use the established section and paragraph numbering. Unfortunately, this numbering is entirely missing from the reprint, which I have donated to my nearest library after receiving my Loeb copies. These little gems cost about four times the reprint, but for that, you get a book you will be proud to own, and even show off a bit on your bookshelf, plus a great little commentary on the Discourses, as well as the 'Fragments' and 'The Encheiridion', a summary of Epictetus thoughts by his secretary, Arrian. The reprint has none of this and, for the third time, I suggest it is less than useless, as it gives the illusion of value, and you will be disappointed when you find it missing.

4-0 out of 5 stars very useful to New Testament Greek readers
I bought this book to help me improve my New Testament Greek because I was told that Epictetus' koine Greek is fairly easy.It was a good choice because although no Greek is really easy, this is much easier than say Plato or even some of the Church Father's I have tried.I have read through the Encheiridion and have found the vocabulary, and, to a lesser exent, the syntax, to be very similar to the New Testament.This is important because for those of us whose goal is to read the Greek New Testament well, we don't want to spend a lot of time learning vocabulary not found in the N.T.Almost every word I had to look up in the Encheiridion is either in the N.T. or has a similar cognate that is.Epictetus uses several words that appear in the N.T. only once or twice quite often, which means that if you read and re-read Epictetus you will begin to master rare N.T. words.The other problem with finding good non-biblical Greek to read is that a lot of it is either worthless or anti-Christian or both, but Stoicism is a worthy philosophy in its own right and does not conflict with the Christian faith.It is of great comfort and the Encheiridion is that rare book that one wants to read over and over again, which, like reading the New Testament over and over again, is the only way that I seem to be able to master Greek to the limited extent I have.
The Loeb classical library is renowned but not exactly ideal.Having a tranlsation on the facing page is a must for non-biblical Greek, because again one does not WANT to master every word or construction if it is not found in the N.T.What I do isto annotate my copy with vocabulary words I am trying to learn or cross reference to similary N.T. words.Oldfeather's translation is not the best, nor even is it literal enough to unpack the Greek, but it is okay and the main thing a reader of this book would want is a Greek text.The book's small size allows one to carry it around easily, although a larger Greek font would always be appreciated.The footnotes are adequate.Bottom line; this is one of the greatest works of philosophy and very helpful to those learning New Testament Greek.

5-0 out of 5 stars The Grassroots Continue
In the first volume, Arrian builds up a few foundational concepts while tearing down a few others. In the second volume, comprising Books 3 and 4, along with the Encheiridion, Arrian's Epictetus continues an in depth broadside on many topics.

The book deals with a huge array of topics, from the very interesting calling of a Cynic, the type of training one should cultivate, the attitude to news, to circumstances and so on. This book contains such a large variety of teachings from Epictetus, I think one could spend a lifetime implementing it all. It would certainly, like the previous volume, deserve additional readings.

Throughout, Arrian's Epictetus maintains his direct, forthright verbal assault on a variety of characters who have both high and humble positions and stations in life. Epictetus' style is very much "in-your-face", and he leaves no doubt as to what his opinions are.

In short, if you have read the first volume, you get a lot more from this one in terms of practical every day living. This volume goes beyond the basics and the foundation, and takes you into the real world of everyday life. It is a great book, and one that will soon have you asking for more.

5-0 out of 5 stars A wonderful book on many levels
I found epictetus' guide for living in a bookstore, and I had to read more. Discourses is wonderful book on many levels. It is disorganized and at times anachronistic, but it is well worth reading.

It is one of the most comforting books to read if you having trouble in your life.It should be required reading for anyone who is depressed.His simple lessons allow one to overcome fear and recognize real priorities.His style ranges from brilliant clear logic to deeply and beautifully spiritual.Thus he reaches the skeptical critical thinker as well as the more emotional type.

The book is also a window into the mindset of the Roman Empire in the first century.Though Epictetus was a pagan his concept of God is very Monotheistic.Clearly stoic thought and philosopy influenced early Christians.Interestingly Epictetus argues that we ought to live a way of life that is very similar to what Christianity prescribes.Forgivness of self and others is just one of the similarities.However, he argues not that each of us carries original sin, but that each of us carries a spark of divinity:We have been given understanding and intelligence to recognize right from wrong as well as the ability to choose.The shear wonder of this gift and of creation in general motivates us to choose right, not fear of Hell or desire for Heaven.

It is amazing to me that one who spoke so long ago can speak so clearly to the real life issues we face today.Read it to understand history.Read it for a fresh view on Judeochristian thought and morals.Read it for your own mental and spiritual health.Read it.

5-0 out of 5 stars Not just the works
This is volume two of a two volume set. The first volume is "Epictetus : Discourses, Books 1 and 2 (Loeb Classical Library, No 131)". The contents for both volumes are as follows:

VOLUME I:

Introduction (editors)

Bibliography

Symbols

Discourses, Book I

Discourses, Book II

Index

VOLUME II:

Discourses, Book III

Discourses, Book IV

Fragments

Encheiridion

Index

The first thing worth noting is that although the titles of the volume refer to just the Discourses, the set is really a complete set of extant works, including fragments from other sources as well as a complete copy of the Encheiridion.

As is typical for the Loeb classical library books, the volumes are physically small, and the original text (Greek, for Epictetus) is given on the left hand page, with the English translation on the right.

The Introduction gives a brief biography of Epictetus and background information concerning Stoic philosophy. The Bibliography (which contains an update note from the original 1925 edition) gives the state of Epictetus scholarship. In the actual texts, footnotes are abundant and explain unfamiliar names, places, difficulties with translation, uncertainties about the source text, and Epictetus' quotes from earlier writers are more fully referenced. In summation, the background material supplied with these books is excellent.

As for the texts themselves, they were not actually written by Epictetus, but were notes taken by Arrian, one of his students (not unlike the Nicomachean Ethics, which were notes taken by a student of Aristotle). The Discourses are quite lively in style; Epictetus' personality and teaching style comes through vividly. This is not true of the Encheiridion, which Arrian abstracted from the Discourses and which had the life wrung out of it in the process.

The Discourses are not a well-organized body of work, as their origin might suggest. They are repetitive, and points that should have been grouped together logically are dispersed throughout.

The content is almost entirely ethical. Epictetus emphasizes the spark of divinity within man - that a man should always behave honourably. External things, such as wealth and power, are not things to be valued - they can be lost at any time, and are not worth a man's honour. Because his teachings are ethical, Epictetus is not concerned with what a man knows, but how he lives. The point isn't to understand his philosophy (which isn't hard), but to live it (which is). ... Read more


5. Epictetus, I, Discourses, Books 1-2 (Loeb Classical Library)
by Epictetus
Hardcover: 480 Pages (1925-01-01)
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Epictetus was a crippled Greek slave of Phrygia during Nero's reign (54-68 CE) who heard lectures by the Stoic Musonius before he was freed. Expelled with other philosophers by the emperor Domitian in 89 or 92 he settled permanently in Nicopolis in Epirus. There, in a school which he called 'healing place for sick souls', he taught a practical philosophy, details of which were recorded by Arrian, a student of his, and survive in four books of Discourses and a smaller Encheiridion, a handbook which gives briefly the chief doctrines of the Discourses. He apparently lived into the reign of Hadrian (117-138 CE).

Epictetus was a teacher of Stoic ethics, broad and firm in method, sublime in thought, and now humorous, now sad or severe in spirit. How should one live righteously? Our god-given will is our paramount possession, and we must not covet others'. We must not resist fortune. Man is part of a system; humans are reasoning beings (in feeble bodies) and must conform to god's mind and the will of nature. Epictetus presents us also with a pungent picture of the perfect (Stoic) man.

The Loeb Classical Library edition of Epictetus is in two volumes.

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5-0 out of 5 stars The most authoritative and USEFUL edition!
This is the first of the two volume Loeb Classical Library edition of Epictetus' Discourses, with Greek and W. A. Oldfather's English translation on facing pages. For those who have no intgerest in the Greek, purchasing this volume may seem like a bit of overkill when compared with inexpensive reprints such as the one from NuVision Publications (September 19, 2006). As someone who bought the reprint first, I must tell you I tried to use it once and was immediately disappointed. Just as with my copies of Homer, Plato, Aristotle, and practically every other classic author, I rarely read them or parts of them from start to finish. Rather, I look up sections when I find references to them in commentaries on, for example, parts of the Old or New Testaments. In order to find the appropriate passage, one must use the established section and paragraph numbering. Unfortunately, this numbering is entirely missing from the reprint, which I have donated to my nearest library after receiving my Loeb copies. These little gems cost about four times the reprint, but for that, you get a book you will be proud to own, and even show off a bit on your bookshelf, plus a great little commentary on the Discourses, as well as the 'Fragments' and 'The Encheiridion', a summary of Epictetus thoughts by his secretary, Arrian. The reprint has none of this and, for the third time, I suggest it is less than useless, as it gives the illusion of value, and you will be disappointed when you find it missing.

5-0 out of 5 stars Grassroots Philosophy
Epictetus' "Discourses Books 1 and 2" are a solid exposition of his Stoic philosophy. The ideas are grassroots and grounded in the real world, though attempting to achieve some awareness of individual transcendance. Written by Arrian, one of Epistetus' students, it is an excellent resource.

Arrian's Epictetus basically starts by ripping common conceptions apart and undermining those things that we all take for granted or think little about. The fear of death, misfortune, opinions of others and much more come under fire from Epictetus. He also spends some time establishing the nature of philosophy and what it is all about. It is after this that Arrianus gets into the more developed teachings of Epictetus. It is in this section that he deals extensively with moral purpose, external impressions and other more detailed Stoic ideas.

Oldfather's translation can seem a bit strange at first, as he seems to have followed the original Greek forms as closely as possible. This makes for a style of English that can be a little perplexing at first, though you will soon get used to it.

While the footnotes are sparse, the book does not need any more. They are very useful for explaining the references to other ancient works, or explaining some points that one might find difficult.

The philosophy in this book presents itself as dealing with the real world, and is quite useful to anyone interested in ethics. It is also an easily understood work, thus it is well suited to people who are not experienced with broader philosophy and are looking for somewhere to start.

Bottom line, this is a great book and one that you will be able to read repeatedly and still gain something from each reading. I had a great time reading it, and was thoroughly challenged by it.

5-0 out of 5 stars As others have noted.....
reading and understanding the Discourses is not difficult. The points are driven home time after time, with one excellent example after another. There is so much common sense wisdom in these pages that you will find yourself constantly stopping to examine a passage and easily applying it to a situation in your own life.
But as has been said many times, living the Discourses is really tough. As you apply the lessons, if you are anything like me, you will find yourself saying, "Well, there's another way I screw up in life."
But what the hell? You know yourself better as a person and you will also constantly find yourself saying, "That is something that is not in my control, now lets see if I can control the way I respond to what has happened."
I started reading Epictitus shortly after reading "A Man in Full" by Tom Wolfe. I love the notion that we find ourselves in these little prisons, (usually of our own making,) but the door is always open. If we choose to leave, nothing can stop us. But if we choose to stay, well then stop bitching and just get on with it.

5-0 out of 5 stars Not just the Discourses
This is volume one of a two volume set. The second volume is "Epictetus : Discourses, Books 3 and 4 (Loeb Classical Library, No 218)". The contents for both volumes are as follows:

VOLUME I:

Introduction (editors)

Bibliography

Symbols

Discourses, Book I

Discourses, Book II

Index

VOLUME II:

Discourses, Book III

Discourses, Book IV

Fragments

Encheiridion

The first thing worth noting is that although the titles of the volume refer to just the Discourses, the set is really a complete set of extant works, including fragments from other sources as well as a complete copy of the Encheiridion.

As is typical for the Loeb classical library books, the volumes are physically small, and the original text (Greek, for Epictetus) is given on the left hand page, with the English translation on the right.

The Introduction gives a brief biography of Epictetus and background information concerning Stoic philosophy. The Bibliography (which contains an update note from the original 1925 edition) gives the state of Epictetus scholarship. In the actual texts, footnotes are abundant and explain unfamiliar names, places, difficulties with translation, uncertainties about the source text, and Epictetus' quotes from earlier writers are more fully referenced. In summation, the background material supplied with these books is excellent.

As for the texts themselves, they were not actually written by Epictetus, but were notes taken by Arrian, one of his students (not unlike the Nicomachean Ethics, which were notes taken by a student of Aristotle). The Discourses are quite lively in style; Epictetus' personality and teaching style comes through vividly. This is not true of the Encheiridion, which Arrian abstracted from the Discourses and which had the life wrung out of it in the process.

The Discourses are not a well-organized body of work, as their origin might suggest. They are repetitive, and points that should have been grouped together logically are dispersed throughout.

The content is almost entirely ethical. Epictetus emphasizes the spark of divinity within man - that a man should always behave honourably. External things, such as wealth and power, are not things to be valued - they can be lost at any time, and are not worth a man's honour. Because his teachings are ethical, Epictetus is not concerned with what a man knows, but how he lives. The point isn't to understand his philosophy (which isn't hard), but to live it (which is).

5-0 out of 5 stars Taking control of your life
This volume and its companion, listed as Discourses Books 3 and 4, are actually what survives of one work written almost 1900 years ago: the historian Arrian's recording of what he learned from his study with the premier Stoic philosopher of antiquity, Epictetus.The Discourses are, quite simply, a collection of some of the most down-to-earth, practical, beneficial teachings ever spoken: understanding what Epictetus said is easy; he is a lucid and forthright instructor:putting his teachings into practice is the difficulty.But the struggle is worthwhile:practicing Stoicism is not "a denial of the self", but rather a freeing of the self from the dictatorship of things beyond our control.Epictetus teaches us how to see the world as it really is; how to see ourselves as we really are; and to understand how we can live at peace within chaos.[More information under my review of the Everyman's Library edition. ... Read more


6. Art of Living: The Classical Mannual on Virtue, Happiness, and Effectiveness (Plus)
by Epictetus, Sharon Lebell
Paperback: 144 Pages (2007-07-01)
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"Happiness and freedom begin with a clear understanding of one principle: Some things are within our control, and some things are not. It is only after you have faced up to this fundamental rule and learned to distinguish between what you can and can't control that inner tranquility and outer effectiveness become possible." The Stoic philosopher Epictetus was born on the eastern edges of the Roman Empire in A.D. 55, but The Art of Living is still perfectly suited for any contemporary self-help or recovery program. To prove the point, this modern interpretation by Sharon Lebell casts the teachings in up-to-date language, with phrases like "power broker" and "casual sex" popping up intermittently. But the core is still the same: Epictetus keeps the focus on progress over perfection, on accomplishing what can be accomplished and abandoning unproductive worry over what cannot. Book Description

Epictetus was born into slavery about 55 ce in the eastern outreaches of the Roman Empire. Once freed, he established an influential school of Stoic philosophy, stressing that human beings cannot control life, only their responses to it. By putting into practice the ninety-three witty, wise, and razor-sharp instructions that make up The Art of Living, readers learn to meet the challenges of everyday life successfully and to face life's inevitable losses and disappointments with grace.

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5-0 out of 5 stars A beautiful spiritual book
I have read this four or five times, and I have found that it is truly a manual to live by. If this manual replaced the Bible, the New Testament, and the Koran, people would be much more peaceful and contented. It has great common sense advice, and such a simple, humble tone. It reminds me of the Tao Te Ching, but less mystical. Every time I read it I feel better about life. I think anyone would benefit from reading it.

5-0 out of 5 stars Most helpful "self-help" book I've ever encountered!
While some reviewers might object to the "updated" terminology of Lebell's adaptation of Epictetus' philosophy, I must say that the reason this edition is so effective is largely because the "abstract", "scholarly", "dry" language that one usually encounters (with conventional translations of Epictetus' philosophy) is here replaced with a pleasing approximation of how Epictetus himself would likely speak TODAY (assuming his native tongue were English).

IMPORTANT NOTE: Though I certainly do esteem my copy of this excellent, conventional-book edition, I must say that the alternative AUDIO edition is infinitely more powerfully effective for ME. Indeed, since discovering the AUDIOBOOK edition (an excellently judicious abridgement of this conventional-book edition) some years ago, I've found myself listening to it over and over and over, and I expect to do so for the rest of my life! I certainly can't say THAT about any other audiobook (with the possible exception of the audio edition of "How to Stop Worrying and Start Living" by Dale Carnegie). If everybody would listen to that audio while commuting to/from work (and/or at bedtime or upon waking), this would likely be a kinder, saner world.

Therefore, IN ADDITION TO (or, initially, instead of) this conventional-book edition, you should absolutely purchase the "audio download" edition of this book so that you can have it as either a conventional compact disc or as MP3 files (for your iPod, MP3 player, computer, etc.). [As of this writing, you can find Amazon's "audio download" edition by first "searching" on the ISBN number of the CASSETTE edition (1574530887) and then clicking on the "Also Available" audio download edition link near the top of the page.] The price for the "audio download" edition is remarkably low; indeed, it may well amount to the greatest "self-help" bargain you'll ever encounter!

Regarding this TEXT edition, be aware that only the latest (2007) edition [ISBN: 9780061286056] includes two RECENTLY WRITTEN essays by author Lebell: "Epi-Who? How a 200-Year-Old Dead White Male Changed My Life" and "Why Would Anyone Want to Be a Stoic?". These helpful and gratifying essays (appended to the reprinted text of the prior, 1995 edition) should prove helpful/entertaining to most readers, especially newcomers to Epictetus' teachings. Oh, btw, the latest edition also features all-new cover art.

5-0 out of 5 stars Timeless and Crucial Reading for Those Who Care.
The Art of Living is a great compilation of wisdom as it was once expressed by Epictetus and has been presented by Sharon Lebell. I use this book for various purposes: to read when I need inspiration; to be confronted with the simple wisdom that is captured in daily occurrences, and as material to guide my students in management courses at various levels toward enhanced acceptance, understanding, and respect for life and the living.

This book has also determined the direction of my books "The Awakened Leader: One Simple Leadership Style That Works Every Time, Everywhere," and "Spirituality in the Workplace: What it is; Why it Matters; How to Make it Work for You" (co-authored with Dr. Satinder Dhiman and dr. Richard King).

The values presented in "The Art of Living" are not merely timeless. They are crucial for our sense of humility in a world where it's all about appearances and impression establishment.

The values of this book have been richly incorporated in both, "The Awakened Leader," and "Spirituality in the Workplace," with the intention to provide contemporary readers with useful material to remain a successful member of society, while not becoming victimized by it.

5-0 out of 5 stars Outstanding book
This is one of the most valuable books that I own. The ideas in this book are remarkably incisive and perceptive. I've always found ancient philosophers like Socrates and Aristotle to be interesting, but none other seems so directly pertinent to everyday life. Many of his ideas show interesting parallels with Buddhism too.

As far as this paraphrased edition goes, I like that too. I have read other translated versions. Yes, it is not translated to the letter but it skilfully preserves the essence and meaning. The concepts are the same. It is also a lot more readable than any other version I have seen before. If you read this and feel inspired, then go consult a more literal translation. But read this one first.

Money spent on this book will not be wasted. These ideas are worth their weight in gold.

5-0 out of 5 stars Good Ideas Presented
I appreciate the review, "Even Watered Down Epictetus Is A Treat." This version is perhaps watered down by academic standards, even errant in its conception. I like the book immensely, however, precisely because it is geared for contemporary audiences. I like the writing style and the risks Lebell takes in interpretation. She's no fundamentalist. The words are alive for our time, not for the sake of preserving academic sawdust. ... Read more


7. A Manual for Living (A Little Book of Wisdom)
by Epictetus
Paperback: 96 Pages (1994-06-23)
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The essence of perennial Stoic wisdom in aphorisms of stunning insight and simplicity. The West's first and best little instruction book offers thoroughly contemporary and pragmatic reflections on how best to live with serenity and joy. ... Read more

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5-0 out of 5 stars Relevant wisdom for the 21st Century
Sharon Lebell's paraphrases of the Roman Stoic Epictetus are convincingly presented in this little guidebook. Much of the core Stoic philosophy is translated for us in this brief but philosophically weighty interpretation: See things for what they are; guard against a false sense of self-importance; practice indifference to external conditions; the life of wisdom demands its price; speak impeccably; you become what you give your attentions to; action is what counts, not talk; practice tact and tolerance; wisdom depends upon vigilance.

Highly recommended. And a very quick read.

Epictetus also recommends the study of Heraclitus and Diogenes, his philosophical ancestors.


Extracts: A Field Guide for Iconoclasts

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5-0 out of 5 stars Pure jewel on the path of the heart
This small book contains concise and easy to verify life's truths which enhance our joy of life.It allows to readers and practitioners to choose consciously between boring, bitter, sour and sterile or sweet and fulfilling life under any circumstances.It can be used from time to time or daily as handy helper and worthy reminder on the paths of everyday life. This jewel of wisdom gives a powerful thrust adequate for both; young ones andadults,giving them immense support and leaving them absolute freedom traveling the path of the heart.

5-0 out of 5 stars So Much Wisdom
The remarkable thing about this book is it contains so much wisdom in so few words.It truly lives up to its title - A Manual For Living.

If there is any fault to be found with the book it would be in its brevity.I have read many books that say less in four times the number of words.

It is really amazing that so many of the truths of living a purposeful life filled with happiness have been around for so long.We struggle with day to day problems because we fail to seek the answers contained in this book.

It is also amazing that most of todays graduates of institutions of higer learning do not possess the wisdom that Epictetus did.We seem to have become a nation concentrating on acquiring knowledge without learning how to apply that knowledge.Epictetus shows us the way to achieve our purpose in life. To achieve freedom, which he says is the ultimate way to live.

Some of the better lessons are:
You become what you give your attention to.
Think things through and fully commit!
A half-hearted spirit has no power.Tentative efforts lead to tentative outcomes.
Wise people on the other hand realise that we are the source of everything good or bad.

It you want all the wisdom without an excessive amount of reading, this book is for you.It is short enough you can read it weekly and let the concepts sink into your subconscious mind where they can lead you to the life you were designed to live.

5-0 out of 5 stars Knowledge and truths of the ages and our country's founding principles
Only a three star average, what a shame.A great book for every human being to read and heed.Not enough people care about the great historical minds, beliefs and philosophies of the past upon which society has been so much benefited anymore.Perhaps that is why we, and our leaders, fail so much today.

I have studied philosophies throughout my lifetime in search of basic truths and the founding philosophies of our beginning and the establishment of this great country of ours.If one can put aside partisan, political and special interest irrational distain for the truth for a moment any student of the same knows that they (our founding fathers and mothers) were well read and well schooled on the great philosophies of the past and those of their present.It is amazing the amount of accumulated knowledge one can obtain without video games, television, epodes, cell phones, radio, the internet and the distractions of a hedonistic Hollywood entertainment industry in their lives.

Here in this little book are many of the founding set of principles for the American Dream.Surely it is not the single source of the wisdom of the ages or the definitive foundation that the drafters of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States used to produce this nation, but certainly one of the cornerstones in that logical process.

Other reviewers incorrectly, I believe, associate it with Freudian teachings and others find it far too simple and morally founded to fit into their "far too liberal" ideologies.

But one of its basic tenants that "Understanding what freedom really is and how it is achieved" is the key to all past logic.Also, that "freedom is not the right or ability to do whatever you please (a logic applied by our very first Supreme Court Justice...John Jay).But more "freedom comes from understanding the limits of our own power and the natural limits set in place by divine providence."

Sound familiar, it certainly should, it could have been take right out of the discussions during the fight for independence and the drafting of our most basic document, the Declaration of Independence.

Lebell has certainly capture more of the inner man than Nicholas White's Handbook on Epictetus and those critics who previously said Lebell did not stay true to Epictetus' writings are way off base as he did not leave any writings and it all comes to us second hand and with that prejudices, personal baggage and misread interpretations.

So as we all must decide which we will agree with I choose this wonderful "Little book of wisdom on how to live well."The logic in this interpretation certainly flows better and is proven by those who followed Epictetus than the Nay-Sayers who criticize it and its accuracy.

Good job Sharon, I may indeed carry this treasure with me as an aid and comfort

4-0 out of 5 stars "A great little 30 minute read!"
So what if this book veers away from Epictetus' original 2000 year old manuscript.So what if Sharon Lebell interjected some modern philosophy... The point is, this is just good common sense, positive attitude stuff.I liked it.If you like short, feel good commentary, you will too! ... Read more


8. Courage Under Fire: Testing Epictetus's Doctrines in a Laboratory of Human Behavior (Hoover Essays, No. 6)
by James B. Stockdale
Paperback: 21 Pages (1993-11)
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"On September 9, 1965, I flew at 500 knots right into a flak trap, at tree-top level, in a little A-4 airplanet—the cockpit walls not even three feet apart—which I couldn't steer after it was on fire, its control system shot out.After ejection I had about thirty seconds to make my last statement in freedom before I landed in the main street of a little village right ahead.And so help me, I whispered to myself:'five years down there, at least.I'm leaving the world of technology and entering the world of Epictetus'"What Epictetus [told] his students was that there can be no such thing as being the 'victim' of another.You can only be a 'victim' of yourself.It's all how you discipline your mind."

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5-0 out of 5 stars Excellent
This essay is a short, clear introduction to the philosophy of stoicism. It is proof that the ideals of the philosophy can be of real use outside the classroom. It is also an awe inspiring example leadership, patriotism, loyalty, and honour.

5-0 out of 5 stars a tribute to a great American hero
it gives an approach to the war that is not normally available in the words of a ranking officer that lived through the most terrible of experiences.

5-0 out of 5 stars Putting stoic theory to the test
I understand that the reviews are all over the place, you need to know what you are getting. If you are looking for an essay of surviving in the world of Epictetus this is IT, as I was looking for more reading by Stockdale, I was really moved by the "Thoughts of a philosophical fighter pilot" (in which you will find this essay as a chapter). If the essay is all you need to study, go for it, for a little more money go for the "Thoughts..."

2-0 out of 5 stars This is not a story...
as the previous reviewer states, but rather an essay.I mention that just to let you the would be buyer know, that you are getting a 21 page essay in a pamphlet format.It would have made a great book, and a great story. That is what I thougt I was buying.As for the essay itself; having read the sample pages, I was hoping for insights into how he used the philosphies of Epictetus to handle the events of his imprisonment.He does this only in a general sense. ... Read more


9. The Discourses of Epictetus: Volume 1
by Epictetus
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Translated by George Long.This Elibron Classics book is a facsimile reprint of a 1903 edition by G. Bell and Sons, London. ... Read more


10. Epictetus: A Stoic and Socratic Guide to Life
by A. A. Long
Paperback: 328 Pages (2004-03-11)
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The philosophy of Epictetus, a freed slave in the Roman Empire, has been profoundly influential on Western thought: it offers not only stimulating ideas but practical guidance in living one's life. A. A. Long, a leading scholar of later ancient philosophy, gives the definitive presentation of the thought of Epictetus for a broad readership. Long's fresh and vivid translations of a selection of the best of Epictetus' discourses show that his ideas are as valuable and striking today as they were amost two thousand years ago. The translations are organized thematically within the framework of an authoritative introduction and commentary, which offer a way into this world for those new to it, and illuminating interpretations for those who already know it.Epictetus is known as one of the great Stoic thinkers. But he took the life and conversation of Socrates as his educational model. His Socratic allegiance, scarcely examined before, is a major theme of this ground-breaking book. Long shows how Epictetus offered his students a way of life premised on the values of personal autonomy and integrity. Never a sermonizer, Epictetus engages his students in brilliantly challenging dialogue; Long offers the first accessible study of his argumentative and rhetorical methods.This is a book for anyone interested in what we can learn from ancient philosophy about how to live our lives. ... Read more

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2-0 out of 5 stars Not what I was looking for.
In the introduction, A.A. Long wrote,

"...Epictetus often uses the vocative 'anthrope', literally '(O) human being' or (O) man'; but neither of these translations works in modern English.So I have preferred to write 'friend' or 'my friend'..."

This told me what I needed to know about A.A. Long's translation:it is not what I am looking for.Here, Long actually confesses to changing the substantive meaning of a phrase for the purpose of making it "work in modern English."It certainly is a substantive change, since one may logically conclude that all people who are "friend"/"my friend" are "human being/man", but not all who are "human being"/"man" are necessarily "friend"/"my friend".It is painfully obvious that "human being"/"man" is not a synonym for "friend"/my friend".When Epictetus chose to use the vocative "anthrope", he was purposefully addressing a broader group than "friend"/"my friend":he was addressing both "friend AND "non-friend".There is a profound, substantive difference between addressing an audience as "(O) man!/(O) human being" and addressing an audience as "Friend"/"My friend"That difference gives insight to the ideas of the speaker.

If A.A. Long has changed this, then what else has he changed?Maybe a lot, maybe nothing.But, I don't want to risk wasting my time -- there's too much to read without having to worry about whether a modern translator has been unfaithful to the substantive meaning.

5-0 out of 5 stars Very insightful and worth the time and money
The book reads well and is full of information. It's like taking an entire course about Epictetus at a major university--becuase it is.I am a student at Tulane University and I just used this book for an Independent Study course on Epictetus.I designed the course myself.This book was the only one I needed to buy in order to get an A from my advisor whose discipline is in Ancient Philosophy.This is worth every penny if you are interesting in rediscovering the powerful message of the Stoic approach to life and happiness.

4-0 out of 5 stars One of the best contemporary books on Stoicism and ancient philosophy in general
The great strength of A. A. Long's book on Epictetus is that Long views Epictetus, and Stoicism in general, as being firmly rooted in the broader tradition of ancient philosophy. This is reflected in his reference to Socrates in the book's title.

Throughout the book Long engagingly draws the reader into the world of philosophy as it was lived. Especially in the first half of the book Long emphasizes Epictetus' humanity - as well as that of his students. The result is that anyone who reads this book will, if they haven't already, be compelled to read Epictetus.

The two things that I wasn't crazy about are (1) Long's dismissal of the Epictetus' "Handbook" as unimportant (Long prefers to only look at the "Discourses"), and (2) the second half of the book is more technical and less fun to read than the first half. Long is, after all, a contemporary philsopher, and the second half of the book seems to be more aimed at his colleagues and students of academic philosophy rather than the general public.

5-0 out of 5 stars Philosophy as praxis
This is a fine introduction to the thought of the ex-slave Epictetus. A.A. Long is a well-established specialist in the philosophical schools of the Hellenistic period. While professional philosophers have paid attention to the technical and "academic" side of this period, it is finally refreshing to see serious, thoughtful engagement with the practical and humanistic thinkers. Philosophy used to be a guide for living and perhaps it can be again some day. The work of Pierre Hadot, especially his studies on Marcus Aurelius or Plotinus, is also be recommended.

5-0 out of 5 stars Grateful Autodidact.
Professor Long is an outstanding scholar, but as important, he is an excellent writer and a genuine pedagogue.Not content with a vehicle for academic display, he manages to produce an extremely readable book.I am most impressed with his obvious devotion to teaching, as his careful presentation makes evident.After reading this book, I am very impressed with Epictetus, but even more impressed with Professor Long.Thank you Sir. ... Read more


11. Epictetus' Handbook and the Tablet of Cebes: Guides to Stoic Living
by Keith Seddon
Paperback: 282 Pages (2005-12-22)
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This new translation of Epictetus' Handbook brings his ancient teachings to those who wish to live the philosophic life by finding a way to live happily in the world without being overwhelmed by it. This modern English translation of the complete Handbook is supported by the first thorough commentary since that of Simplicius, 1500 years ago, along with a detailed introduction, extensive glossary, index of key terms, and helpful tables that clarify Stoic ethical doctrines as a glance.

Accompanying the Handbook is the Tablet of Cebes, a curious and engaging text from an unknown author. In complete contrast to the Handbook's more conventional philosophical presentation, the Tablet is an allegory that shows progress to philosophical wisdom as a journey through a landscape inhabited by personifications of Happiness, Fortune, the Virtues and Vices. ... Read more


12. The Discourses of Epictetus: Volume 2
by Epictetus
Paperback: 294 Pages (2001-07-19)
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Translated by George Long.This Elibron Classics book is a facsimile reprint of a 1903 edition by G. Bell and Sons, London. ... Read more


13. Enchiridion and Selections from the Discourses of Epictetus
by Epictetus
Paperback: 100 Pages (2005-01-01)
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Epictetus was an ancient Greek philosopher who lived between 55 and 135 AD and taught the philosophy of stoicism. Stoicism is the school of philosophy that teaches one to detach oneself from ones emotions so that truth may be derived from ones reason. To the stoic this detachment allows the natural law of the universe to reveal itself and harmony with the world can be achieved. This philosophy is exemplified in the "Enchiridion", which serves as a manual for the everyday practice of this philosophy. A more detailed examination of the philosophy of stoicism can be found within the discourses of Epictetus, of which a representative selection is presented here in this volume translated by George Long. ... Read more


14. Epictetus - The Discourses As Reported By Arrian, the Manual And Fragments - Volume I
by W. A. Oldfater
Paperback: 476 Pages (2007-03-15)
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EPICTETUS THE DISCOURSES AS REPORTED BY ARRIAN, THE MANUAL, AND FRAGMENTS WITH AN ENGLISH TRANSLATION BY W, A. OLDFATHER. IN TWO VOLUMES VOL. 1HOOKS I AND It LONDON WILLIAM HEINEMANN NEW YORK O. P, PUTNAMS SONS MCMXXV Printed in Great Britain INTRODUCTION Slave, poor an Irus, halting as I trod, I y Epicietus, was the friend of God. 1 EPIOTKTUH was a slave womans son,, and for many years a slave himself. 2 The tone and temper of tiis whole life were determined thereby. An all engulfing passion for independence and freedom so 1 AouAos EirlKTif ro yevdjmiiv ical crw j avairrjpos Kcd tfplf v T tyoy ical 4 iA. osr aQavdrots. An anonymous epigram John Chrys., Patrol. 1r. LX. Ill Macroh. Sat.. I. 11,45 Antli. Pol. VI L 67 5, ug translated by H. Maenaghten. The ascription to Leonidas i, s merely a pnlaoographical blunder in part of the MS. tradition, that to Kpictetus himself by Macrobius a patent absurdity. J Thin IH tho explicit testimony of an undated but fairly early inneription from Fisidia J. R. S. Sterrett Papers of the Amer. School of Hl m. M-ud. tt Athcm, 18B4--5, 3, 3151 . Kaibd Herm, 1888, 2U, 542 1., and of Palladiua TH.-CJallifiUumoH, IIL H ed. M ill or, and is distinctly implied by a phram in a letter professedly addreaaod to him by one of the PhiloBtrati Kj, JO harOdiecrQai rts KOI rtvuiv yiyovas, I Het, therefore, no reason to doubt the Htutement, an doo. s Sehonkl 2nd ed., p. xvi. The phrase 8 iUo.,. 7p jUtyi in the epigram oito l above cannot be used tVH c. ortain ovid Mi so, Iw cauHd ytyimffQatt n Sehenkl obnervoa, too frCMjuoTitly e ualn I i in tl poc tn, but, in view of tho other testimony, it in probable that nervile origin was what fhe author of it bad in mind. There in lit tie reason to think, with Martha to Afora tntw t olo,, 150, that Kpictetus wan not hin real imiu, and that tho. employment of it IH iudioativo of a modeHty so real that it nought even a kind of anonymity, ninee the deHignation JH by no meann reBtrieted to ftlaven, while hi mod mty, hooaiiHo coupled with Stoic fttrai htforwftrdncw, in far removed from the shrinking humility that Hooka wolf effacsement, vii INTRODUCTION preoccupied him in his youth, that throughout his life he was obsessed with the fear of restraint,, and tended to regard mere liberty, even in its negative aspect alone, as almost the highest conceivable good. It is perhaps no less noteworthy that he came from Hierapolis in Phrygia. f From of old the Phrygians had conceived of their deities with a singular intensity and entered into their worship with a passion that was often fanaticism, and sometimes downright frenzy. It is, therefore, not unnatural that the one Greek philosopher who, despite the monistic and necessitarian postulates of his philosophy, conceived of his God in as vivid a fashion as the writers of the New Testament, and almost as intimately as the founder of Christianity himself, should have inherited the passion for a personal god from the folk and land of his nativity. IW J Beside these two illuminating facts, the oilier details of his life history are of relatively little 1 importance. He was owned for a time by Rpaphro ditus, the freedman and administrative secretary ol Nero, and it was while yet in his service that he began to take lessons from Musonius Rufus, the greatest Stoic teacher of the age, whose influence was the dominant one in his career. 2 He was of 1 It in noteworthy, afl Lagran o, p. 201, obwTvtw, that MontamtH, who BOOH after the time of Kipiotetuti threatened Christianity with tho invuHion of imdtHoipliued Bpiritnal graces, wan alnc ft Phrygian. a Wo many passages in Kpietetiw can be paralleled ckmely from tho remaining fragincniH of RufuH an Kpictc UiH alwayn calln him that thorc can b no tlouht but t... ... Read more


15. The Epictetus Club: Lessons from the Walls
by Jeff Traylor
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Take a fascinating look inside the old Ohio Penitentiary as you follow a group of inmates who meet weekly under the tutelage of a lifer named Zeno in a group called the Epictetus Club. The inmates study the teachings of this Greek philosopher, and with the help of his ancient wisdom they meet the daily challenges of their lives. Learning to think outside the limits of their own literal walls as they struggle to redeem themselves, the club members show us how to think beyond our own self-imposed limitations and comfort zones. ... Read more

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5-0 out of 5 stars Critical Life's lessons
Both my teenage son and I read this book and came out better prepared for life's challenges.I actually read it twice to assist my changing my perspective in life all for the better.It should be required reading for teens not only for the historical/philosophical aspect but rather for the well presented lesson. ... Read more


16. From Epicurus to Epictetus: Studies in Hellenistic and Roman Philosophy
by A. A. Long
Paperback: 456 Pages (2006-11-23)
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A.A. Long, one of the world's leading writers on ancient philosophy, presents eighteen essays on the philosophers and schools of the Hellenistic and Roman periods---Epicureans, Stoics, and Sceptics. The discussion ranges over four centuries of innovative and challenging thought in ethics and politics, psychology, epistemology, and cosmology.In iFrom Epicurus to Epictetus/i, Long's focus is on the distinctive contributions and methodologies of individual thinkers, notably Epicurus, Zeno, Pyrrho, Arcesilaus, Lucretius, Cicero, Seneca, and Epictetus.Placing their philosophy in its cultural context, and considering it in relation to the earlier ideas of Socrates, Plato and Aristotle, he invites his readers to imagine themselves choosing between Stoicism and Epicureanism as philosophies of life.All but one of these pieces has been previously published in periodicals or conference volumes, but the author has revised and updated everything, and has also added postscripts to many of the essays. This is a book not only for scholars and experts but also, thanks to the author's accessible style, for everyone interested in understanding the legacy and continuing relevance of ancient thought. ...